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A prince who is not wise himself cannot be wisely counseled.

Niccolo Machiavelli

Date: 2009-06-12 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
Hmm, that seems to be saying that unless someone is already wise, they can't be advised.

I guess I see how that works in real life. If you have a dim-watt bulb, complex reasoning is going to be lost on him/her. But if you can't get good counsel without already being wise, it seems like a losing proposition....

Date: 2009-06-12 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
You're right of course--but thinking about it got me thinking, how **do** people wise up? And that got me thinking that maybe advisers start off giving not wise advice but simple advice...and then, as the person gets more experienced, etc., they can move on to more complex advice, and the person will have grown enough to understand it.

Date: 2009-06-12 08:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dirigibletrance.livejournal.com
Unless he is a Prince.... OF PERSIA.

In which case, rather than wise counsel, he simply needs to jump around alot, solve highly improbably puzzles, and defeat foes with acrobatic scimitar-action, while also turning back time.

I like my version better than Niccolo's.

Date: 2009-06-12 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dirigibletrance.livejournal.com
Details, details. Anyways, Niccolo is dead, so he's not much better off.

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